ATFAQ094 – Q1 Using computer microphone for dictation and voice amplification Q2

first_imgBRIAN NORTON:  Thatmight be easier.  I was thinking youcould buy us a glass or corrugated cardboard that is durable and will stand thetest of time. You can hold that plexiglass over your keyboard, draw a map ofwhere your keys are, and simply drill holes through that or cut holes so thatyou can place your own key guard over it. That’s probably the least expensive, but it’s going to take some elbowgrease.  You will spend some time,depends on how good you are, with your saw and how comfortable you are cuttingwith things like that.  You can createyour own pretty inexpensively because Plexiglas isn’t all that expensive.  Corrugated cardboard wouldn’t be all thatexpensive.  But then is the time andlabor but into it to design your own. That’s why those other companies charge you $80. Panel – Brian Norton, Belva Smith, and Wade Wingler – Q1- Using computer microphone for dictation and voice amplification, Q2 – Generic Bluetooth adapters for computer, Q3 – App for labeling emotions, Q4 – GPS device for person who is blind, Q5 – Where to buy keygaurds, Q6 – Who provides Environmental Control evaluations, Q7 Wildcard question – Who or where do you go for information when making a significant technology purchase Podcast: Play in new window | Download WADE WINGLER: Information provided on Assistive Technology FAQ does not constitute aproduct endorsement.  Our comments arenot intended as recommendations, nor is our show evaluative in nature.  Assistive Technology FAQ is hosted by BrianNorton; gets editorial support from Josh Anderson and Belva Smith; is producedby me, Wade Wingler; and receives support from Easter Seals Crossroads and theINDATA Project.  ATFAQ is a proud memberof the Accessibility Channel.  Find moreof our shows at JOSH ANDERSON:  Ifit’s a company that put it in, they can replace components without having torebuild the entirely new system from scratch. Belva, I do have to ask, I didn’t know TiVo was still around. BRIAN NORTON:  Verycool device.  Checked out.  I think it is JOSH ANDERSON:  Ididn’t know that. JOSH ANDERSON:  No. BELVA SMITH:  Thereare a lot of different apps available. JOSH ANDERSON: Looking at their website, it does say Bluetooth 4.0 plus, so I knew thatthere were numbers after it.  If you lookfor new dongle and it is Bluetooth 4.0, which a lot of them probably willbe.  With Amazon, you can get some otherstuff.  But as long as you get that, itshould definitely be able to work just fine. BRIAN NORTON:  Weactually have a tech tip video on that as well. You can go to YouTube if you want to take a look at the app and see itlive.  If you look up the INDATA Projecton YouTube, you’re going to go to our YouTube videos.  Every week here at the INDATA Project can weput out a 3 to 4 minute video on a piece of technology telling what it is, howit works, and who will might help.  Checkthat out.  We would love to have you takea look at those.  You will find thisparticular app available.  You can see itlive and see the prompt and how it methodically works folks through thatprocess of identifying their emotions. It does a really good job of helping them better describe their emotionsand how they are feeling.  It chartsthose things and tractor progress.  It’sa really great app.  That’s the only appI knew of that did some of that.  Thereare other apps that will help you identify emotions, but they don’t seem to digin as much as this one does. BELVA SMITH:  Iremember the complex set of we had for this individual, for them to be able toeven just turn the Christmas tree on. Now that’s as simple as having a Wi-Fi enabled plug-in or adapter andone of your personal assistant.  You cansimply say turn the Christmas tree on. For that particular set up, I remember it was a computer in the closetwith all the special stuff coming out. She was going to be able to open her blinds and turn the lights on, butit was also complex.  That stuff is allbeen simplified.  Brian, you did make agood point when you said maybe this individual doesn’t have the voice to beable to use one of the personal assistance. That’s where it gets more complicated. BRIAN NORTON: Exactly.  Isn’t it interesting,these days you get so much more feedback? There is so much to look at with regards to stuff.  Even with services these days, like Angie’slist and home advisor and all these other things, there are so many ways to beable to pull out information.  It’sfascinating to me that you can have the information.  Like Belva said, I still, if I can get myhands on it, I want to experience it a little bit more and get morehands-on.  I go to Best Buy.  I go to Fry’s electronics.  I’ll spend time just playing around withtheir stuff in the store, seeing what it’s like, seeing if it fits well, seeingif it is clear as I think it should be based on all the numbers after the TVand stuff like that.  That’s the firsttime I’ve heard of TWiT TV. BRIAN NORTON:  That’sa better explanation.  That’s why I haveyou do our training around here.  Outthere out the names of those websites again,;;and would be some great places to start just to see what’s outthere and see the prices.  Don’t forget,you can do it on your own and it can be pretty expensive.  It just depends on how handy you are and whatit would take to make it happen for yourself, just as a DIY project. I had some conversations with them, and it sounds likethey’ve tried the Trekker Breeze, but they were even saying that their TrekkerBreeze — which I don’t know how old it is or if it needs some updated maps —but they said sometimes it would lead them through the middle of flowerbeds andsomething like that. JOSH ANDERSON:  Hieverybody.  That’s all I’ve got. *** Then again, you think about this DIY world we live in,depending on what your abilities are and what you’re trying to control, fromsimple to complex systems, maybe it is an Amazon echo or Google home and acouple of different member modules and things that allow you to have the accessyou need within your home. BRIAN NORTON:  Ournext question is, “Where can I go to have an environmental control unitevaluation?” Their problem was mostly I think they did have an assessment.  I followed up with this particularindividual.  They did have an assessment,but it was basically a manufacturer who came out, someone who designs their ownenvironmental control unit system.  Itwas basically just looking at what they may have provided.  I think that’s probably an issue in thisparticular area.  Unless you are doingthe DIY thing — and we will talk about that in a second — with Amazon Echo orGoogle home.  I think what you’re goingto find with these dedicated systems that have been around for a long time, youare going to find that manufacturers are the only ones that know their stuffwell enough and can determine if it’s going to be able to do the job ornot.  They are going to try to sell youtheir product.  That’s a tough one.  I’m not sure exactly where you go for that,but there are lots of different manufacturers that have systems.  They would certainly be willing to come toyou and me with you and talk about their system.  You may have to — much like when you getquotes for remodeling your bathroom, you may have to have three or four folkscome out and talk to you about their system and what it can do for you, andthen make a decision based on that. BRIAN NORTON:  Helloand welcome to ATFAQ episode 94.  My nameis Brian Norton and I’m the host of the show. We are so happy that you’ve taken time to tune in with us thisweek.  We have a great lineup of ATquestions for you today. Before we jump into the questions, I want to take amoment and go around the room to introduce the folks with me.  Belva? BRIAN NORTON:  Talkingthrough steps makes it sound like it’s seven miles long and take you allday.  But when you are looking andpointing and moving around that way, not that hard.  And with a little macro, it might make somesense as well.  The other thing is, we’veused CT switches before.  CT switches arewhere you can plug in microphone and a switch and you have a toggle or knobwhere you can switch from one device to a next. Maybe there is something together with those things.  There is one called Nob Sound, N-O-BS-O-U-N-D audio microphone headphone controller.  You can find on  That may be an option using something likethat.  And then there is also another onewhere it is a wireless microphone amplifier that you can purchase theAmazon.  Looking that switch in between,you can switch between the amplifier over to the computer back and forth, veryquickly.  That might be anotheroption.  That’s a physical device betweenyou, your microphone. BELVA SMITH:  Atairports and stuff. JOSH ANDERSON:  That’swhere I thought about it, is just a voice amplification system.  A lot of those you can wear around your neckor clip on your shirt, and they can usually — a lot of times they come with aheadset, but you can get the lapel mic so it is out of your way.  It’s easy to turn off and on. BRIAN NORTON:  Comeon, guys.  Stick with me. BRIAN NORTON:  Theyare great. [11:15] Question 2 – Generic Bluetooth adapters forcomputer, BELVA SMITH:  To doyour updates. BRIAN NORTON:  Theonly standalone?  Was there a Capsis onebefore? BRIAN NORTON:  Right. BRIAN NORTON:  Ournext question is about an app for alexithymia. They are looking for an app that will help with this. Alexithymia iswhen a person has trouble identifying or labeling or expressing theiremotions.  It’s reported that 30 to 60percent of persons who suffer a brain injury deal with this to varyingdegrees.  I imagine not being able toidentify, label, or express your emotions can lead to a lot of frustration forfolks who may be some difficulty with processing day-to-day situation that youcome into. It may affect personal relationships and other things.  As we were looking at this question andbrainstorming and thinking about the stuff, we did — we run a support groupcalled B.I.T.E.S here at Easter Seals Crossroads. It’s brain injury technologyand educational supports.  We meet once amonth and we have folks, usually about 10 to 15 individuals with theircaretakers come and learn about technology. That’s what the support group is about. Is not about brain injury education. It’s about technology and educational supports and how those things canmake an impact for folks who have brain injuries.  BELVA SMITH:  ThroughApple even? [44:58] Wildcard question – Who or where do you go forinformation when making a  significanttechnology purchase BELVA SMITH:  Heyeverybody.  I’m in a different seat today.I get to see the things going across the computer screen. JOSH ANDERSON:  I gotbored with step three. BELVA SMITH:  Ithought you did. BRIAN NORTON: Although we did get around campus. She had some muddy shoes when she gets there. BELVA SMITH:  I knowthe airports were. JOSH ANDERSON: Apparently Brian hasn’t had time to think of the question either.  Well done. BELVA SMITH:  But theywill be in the show notes. BELVA SMITH:  I wouldlike to throw out, if you do get your hand on one of these keyboards, give ussome feedback on it.  I’m still lookingforward to getting them in our lending library so that individuals that livehere in the state of Indiana can give it a try. It would be interesting to see what kind of experience you have with it. BRIAN NORTON:  Again,Belva, you mentioned Windows 10 computers. If it hadn’t been updated, it should probably have Bluetooth and you areprobably going to be okay with the Bluetooth conductivity that is alreadyavailable in your computer.  Again,$10-$20 on Amazon will get you a Bluetooth dongle that could work.  Like Josh mentioned, Bluetooth 4.0 would bethe conductivity you would want since that’s what’s within the tapkeyboard.  I keep saying keyboard, and itis a keyboard, but it’s so different.  Afolks haven’t listen to our podcast from a couple of weeks ago, the tap keyboardare these bands that go over your fingers. It looks like brass knuckles and allows you to be able to move yourfingers and type characters, symbols, spaces. Everything you can do with a regular keyboard, you can do with yourfingers. JOSH ANDERSON:  Canyou go back two steps?  I got lost. [31:37] Question 5 – Where to buy keyguards, BRIAN NORTON:  Oursecond question for the day is anymore we got from Scott.  Scott was interested in the tap keyboard,something we talked about last week about ATIA. He says, “I would like to try the tap on my Windows 10 desktop computerand was wondering if there is a plug-in device, USB perhaps, that would allowgeneric Bluetooth connectivity.  I have aUSB adapter for my wireless Logitech keyboard and mouse, but that seems to beproprietary.” Looking for a USB Bluetooth dongle. BRIAN NORTON:  I wouldlove to hear from our audience.  If youhave any experience with different types of GPS systems, maybe closed systemsfor navigating a specific place like a campus, or maybe it’s a standalonedevice.  We talked about trekker breeze,but maybe there is a different type of device that you’ve had some experiencewith and some success with, we would love to be able to hear about that.  Again, I’ve not used a Wi-Fi enabled — likeyou said, Josh, I would guess the Wi-Fi coverage is dense enough in places thatyou would be able to get coverage no matter where you find yourself on acollege campus. BRIAN NORTON:  Thereis a way, a portal where people who are helping you deal with emotions can comein and see your progress and hone in on support that they are giving you. *** JOSH ANDERSON:  Sothey wouldn’t need to have any data plan. Than they could use the GPS with voiceover.  I think would open up a lot more options tothem. BRIAN NORTON:  Just tomake sure, the tap keyboard has Bluetooth built in.  It just connects and doesn’t come with aproprietary dongle for itself, does it? BRIAN NORTON: Right.  When I was working withthis individual through email, basically helping figure out where he could go,the one place that did stick out in my head as a place to start, the ShepherdCenter.  I don’t know if you have heardof the Shepherd Center before, but it is one of the top spinal cordrehabilitation hospitals in the country. They have quite a bit of technology at their location in Atlanta,Georgia.  You can give them a call andtalk to them about what they know about this particular area.  They would probably have a lot of goodinformation to share about that.  If youlook up, you will get to them. There is some information on the website on how to talk to them and getsome information on this type of resource. would be a place I would start with and just say hey, whatare some reputable environmental control systems. JOSH ANDERSON: Somewhat.  I don’t know the exacta price structure by know it’s changed a bit and come down, if you are not aheavy duty user.  Some schools andbusinesses are offering it does BRIAN NORTON:  As wejump in today, I want to take a moment for our new listeners.  I want to talk to guys about how our showworks.  Throughout the week, we receivefeedback and come across various assistive technology related questions.  We try to put all that stuff into ashow.  We have a couple of ways where wefind those questions or give you the opportunity to provide that feedback.  The first is a listener line that is317-721-7124.  You can send us an emailat [email protected]  Or atweet with the hashtag ATFAQ.  Like Isaid, we want to those throughout the week and pull the questions, pull thefeedback and put all into a show. BELVA SMITH:  As faras — *** BELVA SMITH:  It justchange today.  It was buy one get onehalf off.  Now it says buy one and save$25. JOSH ANDERSON: Usually on a college campus, unless you are in a lecture hall in thebasement.  But when you’re outside, it’spretty strong. JOSH ANDERSON:  Withkeyboards, that’s pretty much it.  Islike and iPad Pro, but Windows. BRIAN NORTON:  Ournext question is an email from a friend of ours down in southern Indiana.  They work at a school in southern Indiana andthey have a college student who is blind and is looking to navigate thecampus.  They are looking for a GPS typeof system.  Basically says she does nothave a smart phone and doesn’t have the resources to get one.  We do have some scholarship money that wecould use to purchase something, but I’m not sure what to get.  Have looked at the Trekker Breeze, which ismade by Humanware, but couldn’t tell if they could put campus locations into itor not.  Do you have any recommendationsfor a talking GPS that would allow us to add some campus locations. I don’t typically look at reviews online, because I findmyself into the rabbit holes where I am being pulled away.  I agree with you, Josh, I think if a person,for whatever reason, maybe had a bad experience, obviously you’re going to geta bad review. BELVA SMITH:  And it’sa mouse as well. *** BRIAN NORTON:  Weplayed a little musical chairs here today in the studio appear Belva is on myleft and not directly in front of me. Belva is our vision team lead here with our clinical assistivetechnology team here at Easter Seals Crossroads.  She knows anything and everything aboutvision related technologies here is that too much? JOSH ANDERSON:  Notus, together. BELVA SMITH:  And ifyou check out that tech tip that we did as well as the podcast that Josh did — [15:52] Question 3 – App for labeling emotions *** BELVA SMITH: Newsflash.  The good news isthere’s been an app price drop.  It’sonly $3.99. All that to say is a couple weeks ago, maybe a month ago,back in January we had someone come in. They showed us the My Emotional Compassapp.  That is an app that helps peopledig into their emotions.  The way thatworks for you is you basically work through your emotions using an app wherethey put you into some different quadrants as you answer questions about whatare you feeling right now, you give an answer, and it keeps askingquestions.  It eventually get you down to— as you go down the road a bit — not only to an answer to maybe how you’refeeling in a better word to describe how you are feeling couple what might youdo with that.  Josh, I think you had heron a Assistive Technology Update podcast a while back, right? BRIAN NORTON:  Ohyeah.  Are there other devices likeTrekker Breeze?  Or is that really theonly one? JOSH ANDERSON:  Youcan still get an iPod touch through Apple. To buy those inexpensively, there are lots of differentplaces; there is another place called; and are all places you can purchase. They are not the cheapest things in the world.  These are all custom-made, really nicely puttogether key guards running around $80, the midpoint for some of those.  What you end up doing is pretty simple.  You end up giving them your keyboard name andmodel number, and they will go out and get the specifications for thoseparticular keyboards and make you a custom key guard.  That $80 is probably well worth the spendingbecause you are going to get something that is durable, reliable, custom-madefor your particular keyboard.  We do havesome of those in our loan library here at Easter Seals Crossroads within theINDATA Project library, and they do a good job. They are not bad. BELVA SMITH:  No, butwe are missing — BRIAN NORTON:  Isn’tthat a sale? BRIAN NORTON:  Here iswhere the elbow grease — this is one of my elbow grease dimensions of theshow.  I love to tinker with differentthings out in the garage with my saws and those kinds of things.  You can make your own if you really want to. BELVA SMITH:  Josh, Iwish you would’ve asked me when you get ready to buy your TV because I could’vetold you what reviews to go.  You want totalk to John Dvorak from TWiT TV. He’s got all the TV info.  That’s the first thing I do.  Right now, we are getting ready to buy a newmonitor for Todd.  I told him, I absolutelyrefused to allow you to spend any money on a monitor until I talked toCraig.  I try to talk to people that Iknow there have experience with whatever it is I’m trying to buy.  I know what Craig’s favorite manufacturer is,but there are several models.  So whichmodel?  That’s the first thing I do, is Itry to find someone I know and trust to find out what their experience has beenwith something. BRIAN NORTON:  Totallyspaced me out.  I’m looking at Josh. BRIAN NORTON: Exactly.  I think they run $29.99.  It’s maybe something you can move from deviceto device.  Another option that might beuseful and something to look into.  LikeBelva had mentioned earlier, we will put some of this information into our shownotes.  When you come to our podcast, onour website, you can into that particular show.  You can look up ATFAQ 0-9-4, because this isepisode 94.  After about a week once weget the podcast transcribed, all of these notes will be listed for you.  You can take a look at it there. JOSH ANDERSON:  On thatkeyguardAT, Brian, that you gave us, depending on what type of keyboard thatyou have, if you know the model number, they have some already that are$50.  That’s not quite as bad if you’renot having to make the custom one for you. It can save you money.  They’vegot some Apple magic keyboards, excited keyboards, some Dell and Logitech,standard ones that they are to have the key guards made.  It depends on what you need for how much itwill cost, but it looks like $50 is about the bare minimum. JOSH ANDERSON:  Sweet. BRIAN NORTON:  A lotof these dedicated systems that are — again, I refer to as closedsystems.  They are specifically forcontrolling your environment.  They arenot an intelligent personal assistant that will do the things the Amazon echoand Google home do.  These systems, youcan switch activate them, there are lots of options as far as getting access tothem if you don’t have enough voice volume or control.  Or maybe not a voice at all.  You can still get access to them with onesingle movement.  You can blink your eye,wiggle your toe, move your head side to side to be able to use a switch accessto turn things on and off and be able to operate them successfully. JOSH ANDERSON:  I knowthe school said they had some grant money. I don’t know if that’s something they can institute, because it mighthelp more than one student.  I don’tknow, to use someone else’s account, if you have to have your own account.  I would assume you have to.  But I think they don’t only offer monthly —I want to say it’s as needed to building. But they are always changing it and adding new places that are settingup their own accounts to be able to help folks wrong. JOSH ANDERSON:  I wantto find the 2 to 4 stars.  Sometimes willhave a terrible experience and give three stars. BELVA SMITH:  It’sfull of all kinds of accessible features nowadays. BRIAN NORTON:  Youwill have to switch this each time.  Youwant it when you are dictating — but here’s a way to make that happen.  I have a way to make that happen.  You want to make sure when you go to thatdefault microphone, you want to go to the properties, go to the listen tab, andgo to the “listen to this device” checkbox. There is a checkbox underneath that says “listen to this device.” Thenyou can hit “apply,” I just your sound volume. Essentially what you’re going towant to do then is whenever you speak, you are going to listen or hear yourvoice come to your speakers, is my understanding with that.  In order to get that to work well — becauseyou’re going to have to switch back and forth very quickly depending on whattask you are doing at that moment, whether writing or trying to speak — thereare different programs that will let you do macros where you can hit akeystroke to be able to dig in and make those things work.  That may require a small keyboard macro to beable to be written for you to make that switch between speaking and writingtasks. JOSH ANDERSON:  WhichI assume they are using, if they are using it on an iPad and surface. BELVA SMITH:  So ifyou had a Bluetooth microphone that you used — *** BRIAN NORTON:  Theyare trying to use their microphone for dictation, “But in noisy classrooms, thestudent also needs a way to amplify her voice so others can hear her duringdiscussions.  Is a microphone that canaccomplish both of these tasks?” That’s kind of a tricky question because whatyou’re trying to do is get that microphone to do two things for you: first isto do dictation, so you wanted to listen and put text into your document orwhatever you are in on your computer with. Maybe that is Microsoft Word or text edit boxes, those kinds of things.  But then you’re also wanting it to then makeit louder so that when you speak, people can hear around you.  BELVA SMITH:  That’skind of true with everything.  It’s likeyour TiVo.  They tell you your TiVo has alifetime warranty.  It doesn’t mean thatit’s your lifetime.  It’s the deviceslifetime.  I learned that the hard way. BRIAN NORTON:  Buy itnow. [23:13] Question 4 – GPS device for person who is blind WADE WINGLER:  Welcometo ATFAQ, Assistive Technology Frequently Asked Questions with your host BrianNorton, Director of Assistive Technology at Easter Seals Crossroads. This is ashow in which we address your questions about assistive technology, thehardware, software, tools and gadgets that help people with disabilities leadmore independent and fulfilling lives. Have a question you’d like answered onour show?  Send a tweet with the hashtag#ATFAQ, call our listener line at 317-721-7124, or send us an email [email protected] The world of assistive technology hasquestions, and we have answers. And now here’s your host, Brian Norton. BELVA SMITH:  No.  There are also some other really good YouTubevideos for it.  It seems like it’s easyto figure out if it’s going to be something good or not.  However, I’m noticing that, as far as thestars go, it doesn’t have any ratings. If you get a and you use it and like it can go back and give them a rating. BRIAN NORTON:  I go toCNET a lot.  On Amazon, I dig down —I’ll skip to the several at the top.  Iwant to find the lower once. JOSH ANDERSON:  Youdefinitely can.  You contact places andstuff like that.  With the flowerbeds,I’m not sure.  I’ve used it to try to seehow it works in the neighborhood I used to live in.  It would take me down every street, tell mewhere the stop signs were, and I would mark the park and things like that andit would take me straight to them.  Buton a college campus, you are using sidewalks, not the roads.  So if you say I need to go to the musicbuilding, it’s probably going to say there is no road so as the crowflies.  That’s probably why it’s takingyou through through the flowerbeds.  Idon’t know if you would have to set waypoints, kind of crossroads. BELVA SMITH: Is that an android app, iOS? *** JOSH ANDERSON: Yes.  To do updates and thingslike that, then you have to, but it’s just the GPS satellites that is using. JOSH ANDERSON:  Icompare it to Hansel and Gretel. BELVA SMITH:  Just foryour information, the website for that notion in case you haven’t been there —is  They are running asale on those right now. BELVA SMITH:  I’veseen that.  I remember when the firstdevice came out.  We had a gentleman herein downtown Indianapolis that demonstrated it to me.  We were able to navigate through thesidewalks downtown fairly well with it. So if it’s running her into flowerbeds and bushes, it probably does needto be updated, and maybe it’s got some issues. I would definitely contact Humanware to discuss that with them, becauseit should work better than that.  Yes,you can put locations does actually, you can set favorites. JOSH ANDERSON:  Forfree.  And not really for free.  So you have your Aira glasses, andessentially what you do is when you are in their area, you just log into theiraccount.  You are using their minutes,not yours.  I don’t know if this schoolhas them.  I know Ball State in Indianawas one of the schools that has it.  Iknow there are a few in Texas and California. Some businesses — and I don’t remember which ones.  I remember Wickman’s groceries, which wedon’t have here in Indiana.  I know theyare starting to use it.  And some otherbigger companies are starting to do this as well just to make it moreaccessible. JOSH ANDERSON:  Andquicker than the other students. I would love to open it up to other folks.  Maybe you run into this situation beforewhere you have a dual purpose for a microphone. Maybe there are opportunities or different types of technology thatyou’ve used to be able to switch between a couple of different tasks.  This particular one is using it fordictation, but also to amplify your voice so other people can hear youbetter.  We would love to hear about whatsuggestions you guys have with regard to that. In order to do that, you can give us a call on our listener line.  That’s 317-721-7124.  Or send us anymore [email protected]  We wouldlove to hear from you as well.  Pleaselet us know if you have anything to add to that. BELVA SMITH:  Even ifyou come up with a macro, that’s going to simplify it a little bit.  I don’t know. I would just rather see it be separate. BRIAN NORTON:  Withoutfurther ado, we’re going to jump in to our first question today. We didn’t haveany feedback this past week.  Our firstquestion of the week is, “I have a student who uses microphone for dictation ona Surface 3 and a iPad” — Surface 3 Windows laptop. What’s Windows’touchscreen laptop, it’s their laptop. BELVA SMITH:  I thinkthat’s what they call it. BRIAN NORTON: Absolutely.  Again, My EmotionalCompass would be the app to help with that alexithymia, helping you identify,label, or express her emotions better. Take a look at that trick if you want to see it live, just go to YouTubeand look up INDATA Project. BELVA SMITH:  Veryinexpensive, right? BRIAN NORTON:  In thecontrol panel, look for “Filter keys,” which is to keep you from doing thoserepeated keystrokes.  Sticky keys allowsyou to hit multiple keys, so if you have a combination keystroke, you can hitmultiple keys one at a time and perform a keystroke that has multiple combokeys. BELVA SMITH:  I had aclient once that made his own out of cardboard, believe it or not. BELVA SMITH:  I’veseen that. JOSH ANDERSON:  Whichcan be helpful.  Brian, I know we’vetalked about this a lot on some of the medical devices and things that couldhelp.  If you go to your therapist onceevery two weeks, once a month, it’s hard to remember how you felt that morningmuch less last week, I was mad or sad or angry or anxious so many times.  If you actually had something that could showwhen you are on the app, how you are feeling at the time, to track it could beall the easier and less stressful to think of all those things. That can be done.  Ifound a couple of interesting things that might be able to be done for this soI want to go over a few of those with you. First off, there are things with your computer you can do where you canhear your microphone through your speakers. If you have a microphone and speakers connected to your computer, youcan go into the system tray, and click on the speaker that is typically downthere, or you can go into your control panel and find “sounds” if you’relooking for it that way.  You want tochoose that “sound” icon, go to “hardware”, and once you get to sound, you wantto set your playback device to be your speakers.  Make sure your playback device on yourcomputer is set to “speakers”.  Then youwant to go to “recording”, and when you get to recording you want to rightclick on the default microphone or whatever microphone you want to use.  You want to go to “properties” and then go tothe “listen” tab — these are lots of instructions. WADE WINGLER:  And nowit’s time for the wildcard question. ———————————— Transcript Starts Here —————————————— JOSH ANDERSON:  Thereare all kinds.  Most of them areUSB.  While most computers haveBluetooth, this could be one that was updated to Windows 10 that may not haveit in, being a desktop.  You can go toAmazon and search Bluetooth dongle’s and you will find all kinds ofprices.  I don’t think there is anydifference in the Bluetooth.  Do theyneed to have a certain level of Bluetooth? JOSH ANDERSON:  Idon’t know where you found that sale.  Ionly see save $25. If you have experience in this particular area, maybe youare a behavioral list or someone who deals with this particular issue and thereare things were technologies or tools that you use to help with this, we wouldlove to know about that.  You can sendthis email at [email protected] or send us a tweet with thehashtag ATFAQ.  We would love to hearfrom you and be able to include that in our next show.  Please do. [3:28] Question 1 – Using computer microphone for dictationand voice amplification,   BELVA SMITH:  Ibelieve they are calling it a tablet. Not a laptop.  It’s thefuture.  Eventually there won’t belaptops, they will just be tablets — BELVA SMITH:  Correctme if I’m wrong, but I think that if you use that app — and I know we don’thave the smartphone option — but going back to the possible iPod touch or theiPad.  If you use the app, it isfree.  I don’t think you have to pay forthe minutes. JOSH ANDERSON:  Ithink you might be right.  I think youcan at least try it and download the app and with that way. BELVA SMITH:  Thatwould definitely be another option to check out. BELVA SMITH:  You canstill buy it.  I don’t think you cannecessarily get it from Apple, but you can still buy an iPod touch.  I’m pretty sure. JOSH ANDERSON:  By thetime the show comes out, it may be neither. *** BELVA SMITH:  You haveto have Wi-Fi with the trekker, right? JOSH ANDERSON:  I’mlike, do I have to be Belva today?  Ihave to think of better answers than usual. BRIAN NORTON:  That’sawesome.  If you guys would love to chimein on this, I would love to hear from you. I would love to be able to get any feedback that you guys have withregard to this question about environmental control units and places to go forassessments.  Or maybe just experienceswith environmental control units and what you did to pick out your ownsystem.  You can give us a call on ourlistener line at 317-721-7124.  Or sendus an email at [email protected] We would love to hear from you. BRIAN NORTON:  Totallyagree.  That’s the end of our showtoday.  I want to thank you guys forlistening with us.  Please, if you cantake an opportunity this week, if you have questions you might have regardingassistive technology, we would love to hear from you.  Or any feedback regarding questions thatwe’ve talked about this week We would love to hear from you and that aswell.  You can give us a call on ourlistener line at 317-721-7124.  Sent usan email with the hashtag ATFAQ.  Oremail us at [email protected] Without your questions, we don’t have a show, so be a part of it. BELVA SMITH:  You’veheard of TWiT.  I talked about TWiT allthe time.  This Week in Tech. JOSH ANDERSON:  Idid.  Dr. Dawn Newman. She is on episode396, which came out December 26 on Assistive Technology Update. BRIAN NORTON:  Wewould definitely love to hear from you guys with any information you might haveon this particular topic.  You can dothat in a variety of ways with us. You can give us a call on our listener lineat 317-721-7124.  Or send us a tweet withhashtag ATFAQ.  We would love to hearfrom you. BRIAN NORTON:  Our nextquestion is the wildcard question.  Thisis where I have had the opportunity to choose a question that Josh and Belvahaven’t had a chance to think about or to answer.  I guess the question goes like this — BELVA SMITH:  MaxiAIDS is a place that we often go to four different technology as we are doingour evaluations.  If you go to website, you’ll see that you can buy the keys you see, which is alarge print keyboard for under $30.  Butto get the key guard to go with the keyboard is $100.  The key guard is going to be three times thecost of the keyboard in most cases. Another option would be to see if you can find a high school or collegearound you where they have a 3D printer and see if they could possibly — thatcould be a great project for some students to print you a key guard. BELVA SMITH:  Anotheroption would be the Aira glasses where you can get guidance from a sightedperson by placing a call basically to them. I realize that has a monthly fee to be able to use.  The equipment is free but the service is whatyou pay for.  I’ll let Josh throw in becauseI think you are more up-to-date on what they’re charging now. BRIAN NORTON:  I thinkmost adapters, as Bluetooth has come along, if you buy a new adapter fromAmazon, you are probably going to get the latest type of Bluetoothconnectivity.  I don’t believe there’s awhole lot of difference between them.  Isthere? JOSH ANDERSON:  It’savailable on both.  There is a cost — Idon’t remember what it is off the top of my head.  I want to say is like five dollars.  It really walks you through.  It’s not just for folks with a traumaticbrain injury or even with a problem.  Itcould help a lot of folks just because a lot of people have problems dealingwith emotions.  Why am I angry Cree whydo I feel this way?  When I was talkingto her, I was like, as a teenager that would’ve been a great thing.  I would say 60 to 90 percent of teenagershave problems with emotions.  It couldreally help a lot of folks.  I want tosay there is a free trial.  You could useit for a little while and it doesn’t cost anything.  Even if it does, it’s not a very expensiveapp. BELVA SMITH:  What dothey call it?  Do they call itbreadcrumbs? BRIAN NORTON: Separately, we all by stuff all the time.  I don’t know about you, but I do a lot oflooking around  before I buy thosethings.  I was wondering, from yourperspective, where do you go to be able to learn about something before you buyit?  You talk about ratings earlier inthe show and stuff like that.  Where doyou guys go when you are looking to buy something significant?  What do you do to make sure you’re buyingsomething that’s going to be worth it? BRIAN NORTON:  Iunderstand this week in tech.  I learnedsomething new. BELVA SMITH:  I likeyour option, Josh.  Maybe the individualdoesn’t have the ability to have a smart phone, but she did mention that theydo possibly have some grant money that could be used for this.  I liked your solution of the iPod touch. BELVA SMITH:  Theywill be in the show notes so it’s not like you have to worry about trying towrite it all down or remember at all. You can always go to the show notes and follow it step-by-step.  A question that I have about doing it thisway, is that a setting that you’re just going to set one time and be done, oris that a setting that will have to be switched? BRIAN NORTON:  That’swhat I was going to say.  Orientation andmobility instructors need to probably get involved at some level, not justspend some time working with you directly to get to different places, but theymight be able to lend support with that trekker breeze and help you withputting waypoints or tagging places or breadcrumbs, all those terms were usedto describe the same thing, to help you get around.  They are the experts in helping you navigateand get around places that you’re unfamiliar with. JOSH ANDERSON:  That’swhat I always call it. *** I would also like to open it up to the audience.  If there are suggestions you might have forthis particular person, we would love to hear from you.  You can give us a call on our listener lineat 317-721-7124.  Or you can send us anemail at [email protected] We would love to hear from you. Please let us know if you have anything to chime in on this one. JOSH ANDERSON:  Forsure. JOSH ANDERSON:  That’swhy he asked this question. [38:39] Question 6 – Who provides Environmental Controlevaluations, *** *** BRIAN NORTON:  Yes, goahead. JOSH ANDERSON:  On thecollege campus, I would think Wi-Fi is pretty strong about everywhere. BELVA SMITH:  So youare using Windows 10, and the tap keyboard has the ability to do a Bluetoothconnection.  That would be the firstthing I would try to do.  I’m not surewhy you are specifically looking to use a dongle, but I’m sure there must be agood reason.  I think Josh said you canget those at Amazon fairly inexpensively. *** JOSH ANDERSON:  Inever heard of TWiT. BELVA SMITH:  Sage. BRIAN NORTON:  What Ifind interesting is, I talk about tracking. It tracks your progress in certain areas.  I think that’s helpful for folks who dealwith this as well, simply because as you track things, you’re going to identifysituations.  Based on the situation youare heading into, you will have some history about how you felt coming out ofthose particular situations and can prepare yourself better for what you mightfeel after getting into a situation that you’ve dealt with before and hadeither bad feelings or good feelings. You can better understand as you head into something how you might feelcoming out of it.  Does that make sense? JOSH ANDERSON:  Thereis blind square, all these other things that might help them.  They are still making the iPod touch, right? BELVA SMITH:  If I’mlooking for something technical, I would differently go there to look forfeedback and reviews.  Not only do I endup in those rabbit holes, but I think that people sometimes Because they didn’tlearn to correctly use whatever the product might be, they just throw back inthe box and give it a bad review.  Idon’t like to depend on those kinds of reviews. JOSH ANDERSON:  A lotof these don’t rely on Wi-Fi, so you don’t have to worry about your Wi-Fi goingout.  They could be set up differentways.  One thing I would say is importantwhen you are looking at one, take a company that’s been around for a while andwill be around for a while.  I knowsomebody that we are working with has a very advanced system that was createdby someone a long time ago who no longer does it.  Everything they have is slowly going away. BELVA SMITH:  So ifyou had a Bluetooth microphone that you were using just for the dictation, thencouldn’t you then have a microphone that would plug in to the tablet — becauseI think the surface Pro has a microphone jack, I think.  I’m not 100 percent sure about that.  But you did say iPad because nevermind.  That would work with the iPad.  I just would like to see them use it toseparate microphones without having to make a switch. JOSH ANDERSON:  Andevery time they would need it.  And theywouldn’t have to go back and forth between — they could just turn on thedictation when they needed it, use microphone they are currently using, andwhen they needed the voice amplification, just turn it on and be able to haveit for them as well.  They ask, is thereany way to use one microphone with that? You could do what Brian just said. BELVA SMITH:  I lovemy TiVo. BELVA SMITH:  If youare using a key guard, is kind of tricky to do control-alt-delete. Sticky keyswill allow you to do that by just pressing one key at a time, so to speak. *** JOSH ANDERSON:  Ilearned something new today. BRIAN NORTON:  Theyare over here on the side.  We are takingphotos.  We have some pictures here inour studio, talking about our podcast.the other in the studio is Josh, themanager of our clinical assistive technology program.  You want to say hi? JOSH ANDERSON:  Nice. If you have friends who aren’t listening to our show, wewould love to have them chime in as well. You can find us on iTunes.  We dohave a website,  You canfind us on stitcher, Google play, just about anywhere.  Our main website is andthat’s also a landing page for all of our podcast, which is ATFAQ, AssistiveTechnology Update, and accessibility minute. We would love to have you take a look at that and let folks know. BELVA SMITH:  I alsotry to do hands-on.  I’m not going tolie, you will find me at Best Buy trying out a monitor or a keyboard but maybenot buying it from Best Buy.  I can get acheaper on Amazon.  I like to be able toget my hands — I am not one to just sit down in front of the webpage and bysomething.  I like to get my hands on andtalk to people who are knowledgeable about whatever it is I’m looking to buy. BRIAN NORTON:  That’sinteresting.  I wonder why.  That’s a baffling question as to why. JOSH ANDERSON:  That’swhat TWiT stands for. BELVA SMITH:  Itdoesn’t.  They were using it on tablets,which you wouldn’t be able to plug a dongle into.  The one thing that might be worth mentioningis the one thing I remember the lady said at ATIA is the Keyboard cannot beused with the iPhone.  There was a reasonand I don’t remember — I don’t think she went into good detail.  It can be used with the iPad, but forwhatever reason it cannot be used with the iPhone. BELVA SMITH:  That’swhy there is a cost.  That’s what I wasgoing to say about the three printed one. Probably by the time you bought the material and put your time intodeveloping it, it would probably be better to just go ahead and play $50-100for it.  I would also like to say that inaddition to using the key guard, you can also, on a Windows computer — and I’msure the same thing is available on a Mac. On Windows computer, you can go into the keyboard under the controlpanel and mess around with the pressure that it takes to press a key and howlong you can hold it down before it starts repeat a key or something likethat.  Those kinds of little settingswithin the computer can also help.  I’vehad a couple of cases where we’ve used the key guard just because theindividual just didn’t have the dexterity in their fingers to be able to get onand off the keys as quickly as we would like. BRIAN NORTON:  Prettydense. BRIAN NORTON:  How Iwant to phrase this question is more than the question.  We buy stuff all the time, right? BELVA SMITH:  Iremember when I first started, working with you and Wade and a company — can Isay it? BELVA SMITH:  I thinkin our state, there are only a handful of those folks.  I don’t think that there is an ATPspecifically for this kind of evaluation, which is why I think you have themanufacturers as the folks who are doing the evaluations instead of havingsomeone who is certified in doing the evaluations and providing theinstallations and training.  I thinkBrian, you hit it on the head when you said the manufacturers are the only onesthat really know their product and what it can do and how to make it do what itcan do. JOSH ANDERSON:  Ibought a new TV over Christmas, or got one as a gift. The first thing I did was,I don’t know all the TV technology.  So Ilook up all the technology.  What isthere?  I know everything is HDRwhatever, and there are two different kinds of that, and they don’t know whichone is a good one.  So when you get a TVcan make sure it has both of them.  Thenthere are these things like, okay, that’s great, you and I will never know thedifference.  Will never be able to tellunless you are in a perfectly lit room. I usually read — I don’t have a certain place I go.  I’ll sit and search and read two or threedifferent articles.  People tell youdifferent stuff.  If I’m looking atstars, Belva, on Amazon and stuff, I usually take out the top three because Ijust assume that the manufacturer putting in their own reviews.  I usually take out at least two of the badones because from someone who worked in customer service for a long time but nolonger has to fully, there are some people that will just complain no matterwhat, or they have a damaged box or something like that.  I usually take those out.  I do read those reviews, if it’s somethingthat’s available on Amazon.  And then Iprice hunt, try to find things online at different places.  I guess a lot of different places.  A lot of times I’ll try to see if there areYouTube videos on things if it’s a bigger item, just because if there are 25different YouTube videos on how to replace 900 part of it, it tells me that I’mgoing to be replacing a lot of parts and maybe I don’t want that. BRIAN NORTON:  Thankyou guys. JOSH ANDERSON:  Belvawill buy it for you? JOSH ANDERSON:  I takethe ones to heart, hey, this piece was broken, but I called the manufacturer andthey fixed it, so four stars.  Orsometimes, this piece is broken, I’ve been on hold with 12 people, I never hadit resolved, trying to send it back to Amazon, having all kinds of issues.  I take those things to heart because a lot ofcompanies, especially ones on Amazon, seem to, if you have a bad experience,try to fix as best they can. BRIAN NORTON: Our next question came through email. “Wherecan I buy a keyboard with a key guard that’s not very expensive?” I have gottenthis question.  With the frequently askedquestions show, we look for questions that are asked frequently.  For those who don’t know, key guards aretypically used for folks who need to be able to put something over the keyboardso that they don’t accidentally pressed the wrong keys.  Maybe you’ve got tremors and you accidentallypressed the wrong keys sometimes because you have difficulty with what I referto as targeting, where you are trying to target the specific key.  With tremors, you accidentally pressed theone above it or below it, those kinds of things.  Key guards can be helpful in making sure thatyou are pressing the right keys and getting more reliable input when using akeyboard. BRIAN NORTON:  Isn’tit amazing?  Out tell you the places I goand then I’ll come with my amazing comment. JOSH ANDERSON:  Notthat I think of. JOSH ANDERSON:  Yep. JOSH ANDERSON:  A lotof the other one seem to be more of how to deal with them.  I’m feeling angry.  Okay, let’s try this.  I’m feeling sad.  Try this. They don’t do as much with the identification part.  Sometimes that can really help bring downanxiety, if you actually know what you are feeling.  I think my emotional compass will not guesswhat’s coming next, but start to learn from the user and say, you are feelingthat way.  Are you also feelingthis?  And asked questions related tothat person. BELVA SMITH: Yes.  I love my TiVo. BELVA SMITH:  And thenshe could have that for every class. BELVA SMITH:  Thetrekker is the only one that comes to my mind. I think what killed that was the smart phones and all the different appsthat were available.  Even if you can’tget the iPod touch, you can almost go with an iPad Mini.  You can still buy the iPad Mini. that’sprobably Either one of those devices, even with two or three different apps,are going to be half the cost of trying to replace the Trackr. BELVA SMITH:  So Ilike that option because of the wide variety of apps that are available and soeasily used.  That’s probably the mostcost-effective option.  Of course, wecan’t give up and do away — JOSH ANDERSON:  Itdoes.  If I remember right — and again,this is back in December so go back and listen to that Assistive TechnologyUpdate for the truth — I thought you could actually share the information withother folks, like there was a plug-in or a portal – a parent or caregiver ortherapist could actually get in and see, all, Josh was mad six times last weekbut it was 26 times a week before. *** BRIAN NORTON:  I don’tthink so.  I think that works like aGarmin GPS. 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